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Post by firedjinn on Nov 20, 2018 22:55:11 GMT
^^ Yeah, same. I can barely tell what the heck is going on with that outfit, but no bikini armor, please. It doesn't have to be armor, even. Just something practical. If you need an idea, canon GS artwork is generally your friend. On the bright side, I found some gambesons for reference: www.medievalcollectibles.com/c-45-medieval-gambesons.aspx
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Post by sandman on Nov 21, 2018 9:25:35 GMT
Sorry if it wasn't to your liking. I figured something tropy would be safe and go with an idea I earlier of the Mars girl having a sultry personality. As often when you see a character you aim to have at least a semblance of their personality shown...
It didn't take me too long to sketch up, so it's safe to say I can make another one shortly. Something more conservative.
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Post by sandman on Nov 21, 2018 17:18:47 GMT
A short sketch I did as another concept for the Mars Girl. Looking over her general criteria in the party, she is intended as a Support/Healer crossed with a Battle Maiden of sorts. Additionally looking over the ideas of separate races, I thought I'd design a Beastmen/Therion (as I think was mentioned as a potential name for that race). Trying to combine both in a fashion I thought could work smoothly. The idea that while in 'human' form, she is more of a healer/support character, and while in Beast form she is more offensive. The class system of course being Golden Sun esque, she wouldn't outright lose her class or healing abilities while fighting as a beast. Instead a statistical change, lowering Magic, raising strength, and sensible associated stats. It's not coloured so I'll try to explain the features so there's no confusion. Relatively modest clothing, wearing jeans and boots for her lower body, a piece of leather armour covering her abdomen and a lace shirt underneath the armour and off the shoulders. Centered on her chest is a medallion of sorts, might be linked to religion, might have significance to backstory (I just wanted to put something there). In her left hand a sword, held in an icepick grip, on her left hip a scabbard and on her right hip a buckler. (Should have those reversed, but that's neither here nor there.)
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Post by Anggel on Nov 21, 2018 21:59:07 GMT
I don't know where to post this. Inspired by finalbattle's Talia artwork I did this sprite of Talia in battle inspired of a Jenna battle sprite (it wasn't colored, so I improvised the colors):
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daiset
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I'll probably be working on the project between Monday and Wednesday every afternoon.
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Post by daiset on Nov 22, 2018 3:22:14 GMT
A short sketch I did as another concept for the Mars Girl. Looking over her general criteria in the party, she is intended as a Support/Healer crossed with a Battle Maiden of sorts. Additionally looking over the ideas of separate races, I thought I'd design a Beastmen/Therion (as I think was mentioned as a potential name for that race). Trying to combine both in a fashion I thought could work smoothly. The idea that while in 'human' form, she is more of a healer/support character, and while in Beast form she is more offensive. The class system of course being Golden Sun esque, she wouldn't outright lose her class or healing abilities while fighting as a beast. Instead a statistical change, lowering Magic, raising strength, and sensible associated stats. It's not coloured so I'll try to explain the features so there's no confusion. Relatively modest clothing, wearing jeans and boots for her lower body, a piece of leather armour covering her abdomen and a lace shirt underneath the armour and off the shoulders. Centered on her chest is a medallion of sorts, might be linked to religion, might have significance to backstory (I just wanted to put something there). In her left hand a sword, held in an icepick grip, on her left hip a scabbard and on her right hip a buckler. (Should have those reversed, but that's neither here nor there.) The character is cool, BUT, let me tell you two things... The first is a little stupid but have this in mind. Jeans are pretty much a new kind of cloth (they were invented in 1871). The thing is that the proyect, i think that was based on a medieval fantasy setting. Althougth you can have jeans in the setting, they will look kind of out of place. Nothing to change in the drawing really, but have in mind the setting of the proyect when designing the character for future arts . A little of documentation could help your imagination run wild, and also come up with new ideas. If you don't know what to do or if something could be correct... well, here we are the rest of the team to help, as firedjinn did with the website that has a lot of medieval clothing on sale. As I said, is more of an advice for your next designs. Second is that this character is not done yet in the writers section. So... you have to convince them! And we are artists, we have a special "weapon". We can draw situations. If you want your mars girl to, at least, be considerated for the mars girl of the party, with that personality and such, you could try to draw some more sketches. Not ellaborated drawings, but understandable sketches of her, doing things that your mars girl would do. Like... How does she fight? With a dagger? Stabbing from the back or dodging and counter attacking? You can draw it. How does she talk with other people? What facial expresion does she has usually? You can draw it. I, honestly, think that the concept art done like this can help a lot. To your design, to the proyect, to writers, to dialogues, to build the character and also to create the character's assets in the future. So... bring it on... And that's for everyone... even for me... *sigh* All that been said... I think that some kind of string around the neck to hold the upper body cloth could be cool (if there was one, you erased it :s) and i don't know if she is wearing a corset, but if it is that way, the belt on the corset makes no sense... it should be, or either a little lover, holding the pants, or you should take it to the shoulder and load it with some pocket bags with... idk, throwable little weapons or something... But seriously, the second point is kind of important
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Post by sandman on Nov 22, 2018 9:31:51 GMT
A short sketch I did as another concept for the Mars Girl. Looking over her general criteria in the party, she is intended as a Support/Healer crossed with a Battle Maiden of sorts. Additionally looking over the ideas of separate races, I thought I'd design a Beastmen/Therion (as I think was mentioned as a potential name for that race). Trying to combine both in a fashion I thought could work smoothly. The idea that while in 'human' form, she is more of a healer/support character, and while in Beast form she is more offensive. The class system of course being Golden Sun esque, she wouldn't outright lose her class or healing abilities while fighting as a beast. Instead a statistical change, lowering Magic, raising strength, and sensible associated stats. It's not coloured so I'll try to explain the features so there's no confusion. Relatively modest clothing, wearing jeans and boots for her lower body, a piece of leather armour covering her abdomen and a lace shirt underneath the armour and off the shoulders. Centered on her chest is a medallion of sorts, might be linked to religion, might have significance to backstory (I just wanted to put something there). In her left hand a sword, held in an icepick grip, on her left hip a scabbard and on her right hip a buckler. (Should have those reversed, but that's neither here nor there.) The character is cool, BUT, let me tell you two things... The first is a little stupid but have this in mind. Jeans are pretty much a new kind of cloth (they were invented in 1871). The thing is that the proyect, i think that was based on a medieval fantasy setting. Althougth you can have jeans in the setting, they will look kind of out of place. Nothing to change in the drawing really, but have in mind the setting of the proyect when designing the character for future arts . A little of documentation could help your imagination run wild, and also come up with new ideas. If you don't know what to do or if something could be correct... well, here we are the rest of the team to help, as firedjinn did with the website that has a lot of medieval clothing on sale. As I said, is more of an advice for your next designs. Second is that this character is not done yet in the writers section. So... you have to convince them! And we are artists, we have a special "weapon". We can draw situations. If you want your mars girl to, at least, be considerated for the mars girl of the party, with that personality and such, you could try to draw some more sketches. Not ellaborated drawings, but understandable sketches of her, doing things that your mars girl would do. Like... How does she fight? With a dagger? Stabbing from the back or dodging and counter attacking? You can draw it. How does she talk with other people? What facial expresion does she has usually? You can draw it. I, honestly, think that the concept art done like this can help a lot. To your design, to the proyect, to writers, to dialogues, to build the character and also to create the character's assets in the future. So... bring it on... And that's for everyone... even for me... *sigh* All that been said... I think that some kind of string around the neck to hold the upper body cloth could be cool (if there was one, you erased it :s) and i don't know if she is wearing a corset, but if it is that way, the belt on the corset makes no sense... it should be, or either a little lover, holding the pants, or you should take it to the shoulder and load it with some pocket bags with... idk, throwable little weapons or something... But seriously, the second point is kind of important I'm aware of jeans being new tech. But even looking at Golden Sun designs it's hard to say that some of them don't wear jean like clothing. I believe it was clear what the intention was, not being literal, but rather the equivalence of it or whatever would fut such a role. If it wasn't then I apologise. As for convincing writers... I've spent a fair amount of time in the writers section, pitched ideas and such even for the Mars Girl in the little time I have been here. If we wait for approval which takes democracy into account through voting then the concept won't be finished for some time. Taking the initiative for art and acting independent of writers until decisions are made is part of the job an artist does. They create concept art, design structures, create characters or alternate looks for them. In the meantime they wait for a decision they are not twiddling their thumbs, but finding something to do: Something that can be used where their talents lie. In my case I have been writing, drawing and reading what's been talked about before. It's idealistic to wait for decisions in such a way, and nay work for this project for most people here considering the prohect taking place over the internet and not in a studio. I get that. However, acting in the way I have acted in producing ideas or expanding upon other ideas is not harmful and is simply creating or adapting ideas already discussed (but not finalised) to support. Whether it gets approved or not is nether here nor there as the concepts stay where they are and can be used in the project or looked to as a reference later. Thanks for the insight though. I'll definitely try to take those in further consideration with whatever I focus on next. I should have put this in my original post, but this isn't necessarily art just for the Mars Girl but just character concept art attatched to a pitch that would work with it. The art itself me also be representative of Beast kin, or have Beast elements removed such as the ears and just be a simple girl. Regarding the "corset" I made it clear in my original post that it was originally seen as a piece of leather armour defending her abdomen. Of course that's a placeholder and could act as a corset. I was basing it off similar fantasy based armour pieces I had seen before. If it would please the project, all it would take to fix any and all issues with the design is moving a few lines about in official art. I apologise if I come off as rude and direct. I don't mean to come off as ungrateful or rude, directness is just my preferred way of communicating.
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Post by WitchRolina on Nov 23, 2018 16:22:27 GMT
A short sketch I did as another concept for the Mars Girl. Looking over her general criteria in the party, she is intended as a Support/Healer crossed with a Battle Maiden of sorts. Additionally looking over the ideas of separate races, I thought I'd design a Beastmen/Therion (as I think was mentioned as a potential name for that race). Trying to combine both in a fashion I thought could work smoothly. The idea that while in 'human' form, she is more of a healer/support character, and while in Beast form she is more offensive. The class system of course being Golden Sun esque, she wouldn't outright lose her class or healing abilities while fighting as a beast. Instead a statistical change, lowering Magic, raising strength, and sensible associated stats. It's not coloured so I'll try to explain the features so there's no confusion. Relatively modest clothing, wearing jeans and boots for her lower body, a piece of leather armour covering her abdomen and a lace shirt underneath the armour and off the shoulders. Centered on her chest is a medallion of sorts, might be linked to religion, might have significance to backstory (I just wanted to put something there). In her left hand a sword, held in an icepick grip, on her left hip a scabbard and on her right hip a buckler. (Should have those reversed, but that's neither here nor there.) We already decided we're not going to have transformation mechanics like beastform. The closest we'd come to that is one of the summon mechanic suggestions, and it doesn't seem terribly popular.
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Post by sandman on Jan 20, 2019 18:44:35 GMT
A more refined idea for Mars girl. As she's meant to be Dragon Kin, I gave her some horns. Might give her some scales if needs be.
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Post by WitchRolina on Jan 20, 2019 18:51:15 GMT
A more refined idea for Mars girl. As she's meant to be Dragon Kin, I gave her some horns. Might give her some scales if needs be. In case it was forgotten:
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